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 Post subject: what do you think of this drake waterfowl breeders?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:35 pm 
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hi gang,

i have been offered this drake to buy,
he won a champion at a small ag show, but he looks to have a good shape about him ? from what i can see in the pictures of him ,
what are your thoughts about him , the guy wants $80.00 for him :-?

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heres some of his offspring
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please let me know what you think off him ?



regards jase

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He's a nice drake.

Keep going for that low, jaunty, long body, with the tail idealy carried down low to give the bird a long look......

Offspring are nice too. ;)

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Nice but I think he looks like he could use some TLC ;) .


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thanks guys,
i have decided not to buy him, he is a good type ,but not the type i want , but i have been looking for good qld type birds, and finding any down south is like finding hens teeth :lol: ,

thanks to a mate , i am in the process of transporting down 2 young mammoth drakes from qld , and the best part is there from the legendry clive clause poultry stud, from rosewood qld, clives muscovy bloodline goes back 90 years, in his family, and there monsters, 8)

also i have been told that its hard to get birds from him ?

there due down here the end of this week ?, if all goes well ill post some pics of them for everyone to see,

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 Post subject: mammoth
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Hi Jase,
what makes a mammoth muscovy?
When I saw the big drakes at the Ekka (Brisbane Exhibition) this year they looked huge compared to my drake.
Do the drakes get much bigger with age?
I know if you cross a Muscovy duck with a Mallard drake, you get a big sterile bird (if you get any eggs that set).
Is the mammoth a breed variation like a bantam, can you select for it, how many generations would it take?


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 Post subject: Re: mammoth
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rusticular wrote:
Hi Jase,
what makes a mammoth muscovy?
When I saw the big drakes at the Ekka (Brisbane Exhibition) this year they looked huge compared to my drake.
Do the drakes get much bigger with age?
I know if you cross a Muscovy duck with a Mallard drake, you get a big sterile bird (if you get any eggs that set).
Is the mammoth a breed variation like a bantam, can you select for it, how many generations would it take?


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hi ,mammoth i have heard are judged on weight more than size, but i would call mammoths more a bird that is larger in frame, you can see the difference from a mammoth bird to a normal size bird, most of the best birds from qld are all real large birds,

some say the weather in qld also helps to breed larger birds ?
but i think after many years of breeding for size and only useing large birds, there is a difference to the more common type of muscovy ?

what do you think


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 Post subject: Mammoth
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Hi Jase,
I don't know exactly how old my drake is, I would guess about a year or two. I have not weighed him, but having looked at other birds at the Ekka this year, I expect him to grow a bit yet, but don't want him to get overweight like me :roll:

It may be that the subtropical climate is more to their liking, grass grows faster, more insect pests etc aids their growth? I don't know where he was hatched, all I know is that he was hand reared, and is very docile. I'm sure selective breeding will produce a larger bird, although I have no idea how many generations in order to produce a larger birds without accompanying faults or weaknesses.

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