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Your right Crystal, I hear about that sort of thing through the clubs all the time, really p's me off .
Cheers Drew Smith

Hi soozorps, I've only just come on board with Aust Poultry forum and I sounds like you have had a bad experience!! On the other forum "Blacklisted Website" I suggested people microchip their birds, atleast the really valueable parent stock. My partner works in the vet clinic and the cost is about $40 head. I reakon it would be cheap insurance for your 10 best birds.

In the thread i had suggested that the royal shows could scan birds in and out to stop theft. It would be quite embarrasing to have two micro chips displayed on the reader. The pigeon blokes have got it good with their leg ring system!!

Some well placed electric fences about knee high and change the location every week or so ( one strand smooth wire ) plus a couple of good dogs should help out a bit.

yes good idea hero I dont have much to worry about most of my girls are x breeds so no money in them




Raf

I recently read on another forum where a man in Europe came home to find most of his birds had been stolen and the rest had been killed. It is a sad world when people have to hide what they have to keep some @$$-^%* from stealing it.

Its no diffetent here in NZ there is a black market for show poultry I catch em I'll give them a kiwi kiss (head butt)

Seems to be a big problem everyware



Raf

Yep you can have yr valuables [chooks] identity marked - its called microchipping =
I have done this ever since microchips became available firstly overseas [requiring me to import them] then once they became available here in OZ I have purchased them locally to me
I have microchipped each any every one of my birds = by age 22 weeks every bird I intend to keep and/or sell is done
I do it myself and supply the number to the new owners keeping a record as well – each microchip unit comes with its own ‘appliance’ to insert it and 6 copies of the number of that chip – I stick one onto a picture of the bird [taken the day before it goes to its new home] or in peak show condition of any birds I keep – these numbers can if needs be, be given to the Police.
If you want yr birds to be on the Animal Register you are require to have the chip inserted by a registered Vet and to fill out the necessary forms and pay any fees applicable – I see no need for this additional cost as I am able to keep records myself that can be handed to the Authorities
on average it costs abt $40 per bird at the Vets plus the registration fee - you can buy microchips [in applicator] from $5 to $9 each but you have to buy in bulk = 20 50 or 100 at a time - you can buy scanners as well

one microchip supplier is=
chipsnbits
Phone - 02 63668756
email chipsnbits@bigpond.com

the last prices I had =
1-10 $9-95 each
20 - $8-95 each
30-40 $7-95 each
50+$748 each
scanners = not sure of current prices so you would have to ask and also check for current prices of the 'chips'

I have also taken on using a Terms and Condidtion of Sale form which everyone that buys from me HAS to sign for any purchase to be finalised [this forms a legal document protecting ME as well as the NEW OWNER] = this form proves where the birds came from as well = I got SICK AND TIRED of dishonest pplz claiming their birds came from either me directly or my lines so I consulted with my Barrister as to how to protect both parties from 'line identity fraud'




Hi William [no waving emoticon so just imagine it okies]
the leg ring system does work well with pigeons - not sure how well it would work with chooks [so many sizes and all that]
I have covered the microchip bit above - hope it helps someone
regards a bad experience - - - - - yeah you could say that - - - - -
1- some one SO jealous of my birds tried to kill 2 of them at a National show – he got his butt whooped by an official that caught him ‘working’ on the 2nd bird – both birds survived with thanks to other show officials and their help
2 - I was conned once and the 'bad smell' keeps trying to con pplz to this day but that is another story - a much loved member of my family and a DEAR DEAR friend were also conned [by someone else] and I dont take kindly to conartists and theives
And 3 - not too long ago had to get the Police in to find my stolen birds = the 'perpetrator’ wore a balaclava to hide his face from my cameras but stupidly left finger prints so it was only a matter of time – sadly all but a few were found in the ‘persons’ freezer – I just hope that the few not accounted for = he broke a tooth on the microchips!! It was a local ‘well know to the Local Constabulary’

I was reasonably sure it could only be a local – we live quite some distance off the road and only the locals [all 5 of them LOL yeah we live in the sticks] even know there is a house here AND we run a closed community
Not complaining tho as we still have the adult birds – only the shed we were growing the young from last season in was ‘hit’

so if this 'sticky' helps ONE person from losing any birds it has been worth some of the 'flack' received for posting it

I may be just an old woman - but I do what I can to not only protect what is mine but to hopfully help to protect others as well

A breeder & I were talking about chipping yesterday.
Do many people do this?
The reason I ask is, if you chipped a bird & some mongrel stole it, all they would have to do is keep the birds hidden for a while, breed from them, kill the parents & nobody would be none the wiser. (providing they knew the birds had been chipped)
I know of African greys, Macaws & other exotics being stolen, they had chips & to this day have never been seen again....
Hearing this info kind of makes it pointless, unless the birds show up at a vet or somebody with a scanner.
The way I see it, if the low life has to steal a bird can they really afford to take it to a vet if it had problems? Prob not!!!!!!!
Time & time again I hear of birds being stolen, a person I know lost lots of birds last year,white peafowl plus many others, never to be seen again, the sad part is the low life who did this, cased his place bigtime before making the move.
I dont mind people coming to my place, (not everybody mind you), but I take details, car rego, ph numbers (Like I do with open homes), some birds people dont get to see at all.
I also let the people know I have extremely dilligent neighbors who watch my place like a hawk.
& also some very protective dogs.
Touch wood after a few years, have never had a problem.

I think most thieves are dick---ds and boast they have a breed and even put some photos up on the net to show off and this is when microchiping works. I agree if the a’ holes lay low and just breed from them then kill off the stolen birds then its just about impossible to catch them other than DNA?
Cheers Drew Smith