what do you think of this drake waterfowl breeders?

Muscovy J · **Posted:** Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:35 pm

hi gang,

i have been offered this drake to buy,
he won a champion at a small ag show, but he looks to have a good shape about him ? from what i can see in the pictures of him ,
what are your thoughts about him , the guy wants $80.00 for him :-?

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x94/ ... Tom061.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x94/ ... Tom060.jpg

heres some of his offspring
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x94/ ... Tom066.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x94/ ... Tom067.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x94/ ... Tom065.jpg

please let me know what you think off him ?

regards jase

poultry1 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:44 am

He's a nice drake.

Keep going for that low, jaunty, long body, with the tail idealy carried down low to give the bird a long look......

Offspring are nice too.

fuzzfly · **Joined:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:42 pm **Posts:** 253

Nice but I think he looks like he could use some TLC

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Muscovy J · **Posted:** Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:57 pm

thanks guys,
i have decided not to buy him, he is a good type ,but not the type i want , but i have been looking for good qld type birds, and finding any down south is like finding hens teeth :lol:

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thanks to a mate , i am in the process of transporting down 2 young mammoth drakes from qld , and the best part is there from the legendry clive clause poultry stud, from rosewood qld, clives muscovy bloodline goes back 90 years, in his family, and there monsters,

also i have been told that its hard to get birds from him ?

there due down here the end of this week ?, if all goes well ill post some pics of them for everyone to see,

regards jase

rusticular · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:37 pm

Hi Jase,
what makes a mammoth muscovy?
When I saw the big drakes at the Ekka (Brisbane Exhibition) this year they looked huge compared to my drake.
Do the drakes get much bigger with age?
I know if you cross a Muscovy duck with a Mallard drake, you get a big sterile bird (if you get any eggs that set).
Is the mammoth a breed variation like a bantam, can you select for it, how many generations would it take?

Muscovy J · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:03 pm

rusticular wrote:

Hi Jase,
what makes a mammoth muscovy?
When I saw the big drakes at the Ekka (Brisbane Exhibition) this year they looked huge compared to my drake.
Do the drakes get much bigger with age?
I know if you cross a Muscovy duck with a Mallard drake, you get a big sterile bird (if you get any eggs that set).
Is the mammoth a breed variation like a bantam, can you select for it, how many generations would it take?

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hi ,mammoth i have heard are judged on weight more than size, but i would call mammoths more a bird that is larger in frame, you can see the difference from a mammoth bird to a normal size bird, most of the best birds from qld are all real large birds,

some say the weather in qld also helps to breed larger birds ?
but i think after many years of breeding for size and only useing large birds, there is a difference to the more common type of muscovy ?

what do you think

jase

rusticular · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:07 am

Hi Jase,
I don't know exactly how old my drake is, I would guess about a year or two. I have not weighed him, but having looked at other birds at the Ekka this year, I expect him to grow a bit yet, but don't want him to get overweight like me :roll:

It may be that the subtropical climate is more to their liking, grass grows faster, more insect pests etc aids their growth? I don't know where he was hatched, all I know is that he was hand reared, and is very docile. I'm sure selective breeding will produce a larger bird, although I have no idea how many generations in order to produce a larger birds without accompanying faults or weaknesses.

regards
Russell

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