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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have proven lavender muscovy in australia?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:44 pm 
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blue is a dilution of black. two dilutions of blue gives you silver. lavender is a recessive gene. you can do the test matings yourself against a black bird.

blue into black = 50% blue %50 black offspring.

lavender into black = 100% black

again just because a bird looks in your opinion like a "lavender" doesnt make it a lavender. i have silvers that look lavender at the end of their moult, they are however silver. :-D

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have proven lavender muscovy in australia?
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Yeh I actually meant visually they look lavender but may not be in the genetic sense


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have proven lavender muscovy in australia?
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i know, but if they visually look lavender and arent genetically lavender then they are obviously not lavender, they are blue that look lavender in your opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have proven lavender muscovy in australia?
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i know, but if they visually look lavender and arent genetically lavender then they are obviously not lavender, they are blue that look lavender in your opinion.

Right or wrong 99% of duck owners go on phenotype so in their eyes what looks lavender is lavender but I agree is not in most cases. Do you have the genetics of both blue and lavender to post for comparison?

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if they visually look lavender and arent genetically lavender then they are obviously not lavender, they are blue that look lavender.

edited slightly but still the same answer = I think it needs to be reinforced that Blue is not Lavender no matter how much some of the pale Blues look like it to the human eye = and across ALL breeds not just Muscovys

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have proven lavender muscovy in australia?
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Right on colacwaterfowl most go off what they see not the right way I agree but there it is


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have proven lavender muscovy in australia?
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this is a lavender from overseas

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the drake on the top right is a fume or smokey or whatever it gets called, whatever the name its blue and bronze together. the duck at the front is blue

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i think that when the colours are pied the white dilutes the colur a bit making it paler and causing more confusion.

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I think you right there Ian. That lavender is a stunner

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The first one looks silver to me even though it is a lavender to me the colours of silver and lavender are blurred and not a lot of distinction between them here in Australia and yes adding pied does not help


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i've bred a couple of dozen silvers here the past couple of years, mine are all a lighter shade than the lavender pictured.

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