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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:01 pm 
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Barneveldas are heavy breed softfeather while buttercups large light softfeather. Still, I have seen small barnies so I expect them not to be so far apart in size at so young an age. There must be another eason for example, I bet the buttercup a cross with polish for instance. Anyway, you will know more when you ask the people you got them from.


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Hey i rang the lady she hatched the parents of my "buttercup" chick from eggs she got from a hatchery she also got the roosters egg from a hatchery all claiming to be pure bred barnevelder she is puzzled we are taking the "buttercup" combed boy for her to look at because she is confused aswell another thing i forgot to mention is that he has a few feathers on his legs, and they are yellow, still trying to get some photos for you Hook. People told me your the one to talk to about combs. Could it possibly be a multiplex single comb?? He has really thrown a spanner into the works here thats for sure. Everyone is saying you will just have to be patient and see what happens with him :shock: but he is taking SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long to develop.

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Hi Lockit. Another clue about what it is, came with you saying it has stubble on his legs. Look and see if he has four toes or five on either foot. It will indicate he is derived from houdan x, and you will see, they have feathered legs and many have a duplex comb. Duplex over single is quite dominaant so at this stage, I don't think it is multiplex single comb. Have a look in Chit Chat as I have posted a recent photo of a transylvanian naked neck that should also have a single comb, but lucky for me, the naked neck rooster loves my buttercup hen.


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Okay well here is what i found out from the lady.

She thought he was very interesting (and wanted to swap him for another one of hers ehhehehee) we said no no we have grown quite fond of him actually lol. Shes like oh okay well if you dont want him we will take him.

She said and swears it that both the parents have single combs. She said another buff Pekin rooster ran with the hens last december and was removed from the hens in January this year, these babies hatched out 9/11/2010, could he be there babies??? but even he had a normal single comb. I have more photos. here they are. The last two photos he is the smallest one and the big barneys are the same age as him and the little blue wheaten araucana and the lavender araucana are only 2 weeks older than him!


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Lockit wrote:
Okay well here is what i found out from the lady.

She thought he was very interesting (and wanted to swap him for another one of hers ehhehehee) we said no no we have grown quite fond of him actually lol. Shes like oh okay well if you dont want him we will take him.

She said and swears it that both the parents have single combs. She said another buff Pekin rooster ran with the hens last december and was removed from the hens in January this year, these babies hatched out 9/11/2010, could he be there babies??? but even he had a normal single comb. I have more photos. here they are. The last two photos he is the smallest one and the big barneys are the same age as him and the little blue wheaten araucana and the lavender araucana are only 2 weeks older than him!


Funny how this is all coming forward now although they were "pure" earlier on. In any case having run another buff rooster with them so long ago has nothing to do with the situation now except one possibility. I reckon it is more likely even if remotely so, the pekin with feathered legs and single comb, somehow already mixed genes once previously in a mating that left the F1's looking almost identicle to one pure breed, but with the F2's thrown back to mixed genetics of stubble on the legs and possibly the single is mixed withthe pea comb of araucan to form a semi circular comb. It may not be duplex either as the circular pea has been passed instructions for sprigs by single comb. It would be interesting to see if the comb was able to pass to progeny but also to see if those progeny laid blue green eggs.


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The araucanas are mine i bought them from a totally different place than the little "buttercup" boy. She is a lovely old lady, i only paid like 5 dollars a chick so im not dissapointed in the slightest she actually gave me two goslings for nothing, so i dont believe she is trying to pull a fast one or anything.

The little rooster (buff pekin) she no longer has because apparently he wasnt doing the deed and was a bit nasty to her granddaughter she only kept him for a couple of months no way is he the father of his mother or anything. the only roosters she has now are Light Sussex and Barnevelders. She said all of her hens have normal standard normal comb.

Could it be a mutation? Because in the little research i have done without his parents having a different comb there is no other way for him to have this comb. ONE of his parents had to have the buttercup comb yes? Did you see his size difference Hook? maybe he is just a mutant chook.


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The size points to a bantam in there somewhere. Even poor feed or illness wouldn't stop him growing that much. And he certainly looks healthy enough to me. Keep posting pictures as time will tell. The more adult he gets, the more his pedigree will tell us what he may be.


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Thank you Hook, will definitely keep you posted cant wait till he grows up, its taking a very long time..... :cry: will just have to be patient SIGH!!!!!!!!!


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People told me your the one to talk to about combs.
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:-D slight understatement there :-D – byhook is the OZ ‘Guru’ when it comes to the SB comb :-D
I am finding this post most interesting

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It would be fair to say, the hamburg rose for example is said to possess latent v comb, ala duplex. Similarly if it is in rose, I presume it is possible to be present in pea. This has not been fully researched so in a mixed pen mating by chance, wouldn't one expect randon presentation of individuals that do not resemle their parents. Therefore it is nevr going to be multiplex single unless you can prove to me that each and every bird in that pen, or pens previous to this latest mating were all single combed. But I think reading from the other place, I am preaching to non believer.

When I catch up woth you Sooz, I have a couple more little surprises to show you.


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