A few tips when buying Pheasants or Peafowl

Potters Peafowl · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:54 pm

A few tips when buying Pheasants or Peafowl

1. Where possible always view the birds you are purchasing prior to handing over you cash. View the parents and other siblings for consistent quality stock.
2. Make sure they are disease free and defect free.
3. Buy from breeders with real experience not someone that can google and plagiarize others work and steal pictures. (There is NO such thing as instant experts any 10 year old can plagiarize)
4. Buy from reparable breeders with a proven history of breeding and avoid those jealous of the top breeders they will not have any quality fowls hence they are jealous (you can usually identify them buy childish rants trying to bad mouth the top breeders and they will have pink pacifiers at all times)
5. Ask for information from the breeder about the fowls, what are they feeding them ect.. asking questions is learning (not google) All the real breeders I know will happily answer any questions you have.
6. Avoid bad web site with plagiarized information and stolen pictures they are easy to spot all the good breeder know which are bad and will advise of the very worst of them (we PM you with all the info) we don't want you getting scammed or just very bad info as we see elsewhere.

I hope this help you avoiding the pit falls out there

PeacockNSW · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:15 pm

Excellent tips there [smilie=a_goodjobson.gif]

I will add, make sure you know who you are dealing with, a sudden spate of fakes have turned up elsewhere so be aware, also fly by nighters that pop up suddenly and make stupid claims then disappear again lacking any knowledge, experience or credibility. If you dealing with a minor [under 18] make sure they have their mummy and daddy's permission and that they actually have fowls.

We have a list that can help if your in doubt.

FlagstoneFarm · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:10 pm

Good topic as usual and an important one

If people just stick with APF then you will get pure fowl everytime and we are all real people unlike the fakes elsewhere and we have all the names and will give them out in a second to expose them

muttpheasants · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:21 pm

Yep good tips there.

Also watch for pictures that turn up taken at zoos and claimed they are a persons, TW has examples of some very recent appeared elsewhere :lol:

PheasantsGallore · **Joined:** Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:51 am **Posts:** 4

Also remember the time of year you buy as some pheasants and peafowl could be in a molt. Buy peafowl out of breeding season so they do not have a train much easier to transport them

PeacockNSW · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:20 pm

Also if you read from idiots saying dark throats are not a mutation then you know who to avoid BIGTIME

Ask for genetic proof

then watch them run for the hills or the sand box :lol:

as they are a mutation and thats a fact for centuries know throughout the world :-D

parvo · **Joined:** Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:39 pm **Posts:** 735

What about these reports?

http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/6/472.long

http://www.aviangenetics.com/Pheasant_G ... etics.html

Both these cast doubt about whether they are pure mutations, or originate from hybrids.

The first paper states that the blackthroats differ from the red goldens genetically by 26 base pair changes;
The yellow goldens and red goldens do not differ from each other to any degree.

How are these results explained?

PeacockNSW · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:49 pm

parvo wrote:

What about these reports?

http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/6/472.long

http://www.aviangenetics.com/Pheasant_G ... etics.html

Both these cast doubt about whether they are pure mutations, or originate from hybrids.

The first paper states that the blackthroats differ from the red goldens genetically by 26 base pair changes;
The yellow goldens and red goldens do not differ from each other to any degree.

How are these results explained?

Actually YOU have provided the proof that there is NO proof

Quote:

This theory is based on comparing feather patterns and colours of the Amherst with the Black Throated which are not present on the Red Golden. Since we were unable to sequence any Amherst sample, we can not support or disprove either hypothesis pertaining to the origination of the Black Throated lineage

http://www.aviangenetics.com/Pheasant_G ... etics.html
Not a fan of theories or hypothesis Parvo

PeacockNSW · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:59 pm

Dark Throated Goldens are listed as a Mutation and the first mutation developed from the golden pheasant. These are FACTS and have been the case for a very long time. If someone can show genetic proof to the contra then so be it, if not then they need to focus on breeding a bird or two

muttpheasants · **Posted:** Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:33 pm

Are they kiddy with this

Quote:

This theory is based on comparing feather patterns and colours of the Amherst with the Black Throated which are not present on the Red Golden

When you get a 'mutation' they mutate and you get a different looking fowl so the feather pattern and colours are not the same as the original.

Just look at the black mutant or blue mutant to see that.

I say cough up proof to anyone claiming this rubbish, I won't hold my breath.

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